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  • Moving to Linux!? … again???

    From time to time i check out the possibilities of audio production in Linux and because of the shittines of windows 11 upgrades a little research made hope for a new attempt.

    Disclaimer: This is a user perspective. I’m not familiar with every aspect of Linux nor do i intent to go there. Also this is a state of now. I may have missed some neat solutions for described issues. You’re welcome to give me info here. And lastly, since i do audio work as kind of business i need a reliable system. Therefore i try to avoid one-person beta-state projects as far as possible.

    Fist of all Linux DAWs are working: Ardour, Reaper, Bitwig have native Linux versions. Others run using Wine … more or less. My view relies on Ardour and a little Reaper. Others i didn’t try. So it’s the point of plugin availability and stand alone music software.

    native Linux plugins … finally

    The family of native Linux plugins is growing. And not only “just” one-person-show-basement-developments but also companies are starting to explore the Linux audio market. Kazrog just opened up their collection to the Linux universe. Also Harrison with their Mixbus DAW and Harrison plugins was an early adopter. Cudos to them! And for all ProQ users check out Toneboosters, who start to offer LV-2 versions (state of now marked as beta but still, they’re awesome!!).

    Nice list of Linux plugins on linuxdaw.org

    Ya(y)bridge

    Finally a(nother) tool that ports windows VSTs to Linux using Wine. I was able to port different manufacturers very successfully.

    • VST2 seems to works generally. I didn’t run into troubles with my VST2 plugins. But i didn’t test ALL of them yet.
    • The Melda stuff works (mostly). I had some trouble with the Melda Drumreplacer causing random crashes.
    • TDR works
    • Brainworx / Plugin Alliance works.
    • My Klanghelm MJUC works but without VU metering. This is a drawback since without it’s hard to dail in properly.
    • Audiority Klirrton Grindstein at least loads but i didn’t do registering yet. Dr. Drive works.
    • The few STL plugins i own (that don’t use iLok) work or work not. I think ControlHub worked once but now i get crashes so we’re far away from stable here. Maybe just doing another yabridge run can fix the issue but this is a bit more time-bomb than i want for productive work. Installing Ignite NadIR (which is basically STL for me) is on the To-Do.
    • The AnalogObsession stuff seems to work. Didn’t check every plugin but my usual GoTos, Buster, PoorTec, Fetish work.
    • Lancaster Pulse 2 shows a black screen and causes Ardour to crash.

    Also the very specific dependency on certain Wine-staging versions is tricky to handle for non-techs. Running a terminal command is one thing. Configuring the whole Wine environment with all its pitfalls is another beast. I would hope for a user-friendly wrap up, a snap package or something and ideally a GUI for keeping track. HEAR ME OUT, COMMUNITY!!
    I get the “but this way you get to know your system better.” but no thanks. That’s a learning curve i take just out of needs and try to avoid where possible. I don’t want to know my system. I want to make music with it.

    iLok … really?!?

    My workflow heavily relies on some specific plugins that use iLok. STL Libra or Slate Trigger2 for example. The iLok dongle doesn’t work in Linux as far as i know. I could try to switch from the dongle to web-authentification but relying on internet access would be another drawback and i don’t know if that will work at all. I contacted STL and they responded they at least consider to move the Libra code base away from iLok but when this will happen has to be seen.

    Native Instruments WHAT THE ACTUAL F

    Having a dedicated “update manager” (UM) is a common thing nowadays and has it’s benefits. So does NI. BUUT … the UM from NI fails to run with Wine. There where several how-to guides for the different versions but as state of now the issue is marked “unsolved”. Shame on you NI. You do great stuff but coding at least the UM in a way to intentionally keeping Linux users out is a very questionable move. An UM has to compare versions and then download new version from an internet address for petty’s sake. How difficult can one make this simple task. For that matter i’m reaching out to find replaces for your product. If you intend to loose customers … keep doing.

    stand alone is lost stand

    While VST is a standard that everyone has to follow so occurring issues hopefully are solved one for all stand alone programms don’t have these restrictions and there go plenty of problems. I wasn’t able to port the iK Multimedia TONEX application. The STL stand alone amps didn’t work either.

    There is some movement to make games run on Linux. I don’t really got into that rabbit hole yet but from my noob thought games are stand alone apps. If they get to work then audio stand alone apps should benefit from that … well, yeah, i’m that naive.

    audio devices so so

    I personally had no issues. Focusrite and also Behringer (X32) have their USB standards well done so everything works. The Focusrite stuff is also so big in the community that there are several projects for mixer GUIs aso. The RME line seems also working well so we have professional units available. But otherwise. I read that the Audient EVO 16 doesn’t do both ADATs in Linux so if you want the 24 i/os you’re screwed. This seems to be still a trial and error and hopefully having someone with too much time and driver coding capabilites that put up a github repo somwhere.

    personal conclusion

    mixing

    I can mix in linux. I don’t have EVERY plugin but i have more than enough options to get the job done on a quality level. For some tasks where i used iLok stuff i have to look for alternatives but there ARE alternatives. Some of the things i miss could be replaced by the LV2 world. IR loaders, eq, compression, metering are covered. I wouldn’t even need Slate Trigger. LSP has a trigger plugin afaik. But the basic stuff ist also the stuff that works with yabridge. It’s the specialists like STL ControlHub or NI that are still without replacement … which kind of sucks.

    Also loading time for yabridged VST3s is noticeable slower than on native windows. Once they’re set up it’s ok but always waiting for loading (and hoping it does) doesn’t feel very productive.

    On the other hand, beeing able to set the buffer size beyond the 1024 is cool for CPU heavy productions. It’s also needed for yabridged plugins consume more CPU than native because of the WINE translation.

    composing / producing

    Composing is still a search. I relied on NI pretty heavily. Their stuff is awesome for sure but if they don’t get their shit together i have to search for new sound libraries. This will take serious time that i would rather spend composing. Bummer! (Again FFS, NI!!!)

    modeling

    Finally there is my business where i create and sell IR packs (no problem here) and amp models, TONEX among others. Either i get the TONEX modeler app ported, iK does a native version (c’mon guys, DO IT!!) or i have to have some kind of windows still running for that special task. Which would make all the other thoughts useless because point was to not need a windows.

    final note

    A lot has evolved since my last check for linux audio. But still it’s a struggle because companies still denying Linux as a market. It feels a little that small one-person companies have their codebase together and take the time for porting stuff while the big names “vibe code” ridiciously unportable code together. Again, no, you don’t NEED to offer native Linux (would be great though) but at least take care that Yabridge or Wine work.

    To Do list / cry for help

    Here a quick list with the stuff i’m still not successfull with. Will update if i found a solution. I appreciate every hint and/or suggestion!!

    • make iLok dongle work or find alternative solution without constant web-access need
    • Native Instruments
    • STL ControlHub
    • iK Multimedia TONEX Modeler stand alone app
    • Slate Trigger 2
    • random Melda crashes with DrumReplacer
    • VU Meter in Klanghelm MJUC

    What needs to be tested

    • Waves (have some very old licences. V9-12. Installation of these old suckers on a new windows machine is a pain. Didn’t even try on Linux atm.)
    • Dynamount Mic Robot. Their control app runs mac/windows/mobiles. Need to check, if Wine can handle the app. Maybe i could set up a workaround with an android VM in Linux. Not ideal though.

    That’s it for now.

    Cheers eighty

  • metalhead.club Anthem BTS

    metalhead.club Anthem BTS

    Our beloved metalhead.club Guru Thomas asked for a little behind the scenes from the production of the MetalHeadClub Anthem.

    First of all: here you can hear the masterpiece!

    So this is a quick wrap up of what was going on. There will be a blog post and/or video about the more nerdy mix stuff eventually. This is more a “how we made it happen” thing.

    How it all started

    So back in April 2024 (very handy to be able to look up old mastodon posts) MiseryPath came with the idea of doing a song for the metalhead club server.

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    I know how to play guitar, have been in bands, produced some projects and could offer mixing/mastering services so i voluntered. Thankfully MiseryPath took care of assembling the “band”. Anrichter was one of the members and delivered a Nextcloud where we could share our ideas and discuss all things discussable.

    lets get “creative”

    Then we threw around some ideas. F.e. i offered an “anime intro style tec-synth-core” thingy that was a little too out there to get chosen, haha. A first prob… thing was that we all agreed to work in the limits of our skillsets. So a 300bpm 16th note blastbeat was not an option. Again Misery had a solid riff progression and lead melodies that we could build upon.

    Also there were several members who did an excellent job in the beginning but who sadly were forced to discontinue the contributions due to individual IRL situations.

    At this stage we relied on TuxGuitar, a programm to note down riffs, melodies and arrangement parts in a midi format. So everyone had the correct note and position on the fretboard.

    We have something

    The first draft of the song came together. We discussed the possibility to add some synths. This was handed to me and i first wanted to have a song to add something rather than add another layer of complexity in the songwriting. So now it was time to record stuff.
    Everyone had some kind of recording gear so this was not a problem. I simply laid out some “pretty pleases” like sample-rate, bit depth aso. All recordings were uploaded to the Nextcloud.
    We had Anrichter and MiseryPath doing guitars so back then i held back because mixing+mastering was a big enough task to do. Guitars came in (and played pretty solid, thumbs up to both) FrankyFire did some nice vocal work. VirtualWolf had “just” an electric drum kit so he sent in his takes as midi and i added a drum sampler for proper metal BAAMS. For reasons i still don’t know the bass parts didn’t come. I hope the lad is fine and alive but for the project something had to be done. To have “something” to work with i did a bass take so now i also have the bass credits.

    we’re screwed … are we?!

    Having the recordings together i now could start mixing. There were a bunch of “rough mixes” to give the band something to listen and to discuss sound options aso. A major issue was that i only could work on the MHC song in between my other duties. Therefore it took a while to implement all the feedback.
    In that phase we figured that we need “more” vocals. FrankyFire sent a guide track with the state of then but there were several rather long parts in the song that missed something. Unfortunately Franky wasn’t in reach anymore also because of IRL duties. So we had a guidetrack that had several takes rougly merged together. Good for a guide but for the final mix i would have liked to get access to the individual tracks instead of this “stem” that also already had effects which was not optimal for me to mix. And we needed more vocals to fill in the space.

    For the record, this is not unusual. Some points just come up when everyone has delivered their parts and one can listen a bit. Normally you go a step back and rewrite/rearrange the parts. But how, if the singer is kind a gone?

    We now had three options.

    1. Go with what we have which we knew was ok but not the ANTHEM we reached for
    2. Find a new singer
    3. Bury the project

    This was not a fun period. F.e. i came to a point where i had to tell the band that i can’t “waste” time i need otherwise for a project that’s not going to happen.

    In a desperate last attempt MiseryPath called out again for a new singer to help us out.

    Post by @MiseryPath@metalhead.club
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    And as a miracle Caeri found us and agreed to step in. She took the vocals in her hands and went on a slightly different direction than Franky. She did an incredible job and also left enough room to keep some of FrankFire’s takes. So we could do him some credit, have an interesting duo going and finally a structure that started to work.

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    making it THE song

    In that stage i also had to start to do something synthwise. In that time i had a major crush on the Electric Callboy Live Tour video so i was all about the woop woop woop. But “synth” could mean many things. I reached out to the verse to get some opinions.

    Post by @eighty@metalhead.club
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    There was one very important comment:

    Post by @aymm@metalhead.club
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    Amaranthe“. I knew they existed but never really heard them until now. Exploring them helped me a lot to not go full german techno and balance female vs. male singers against some frickely metal chugga chugga. Thanks a lot aymm!

    Gang shouts

    In that same time (march 2025 meanwhile) we figured there is a vocal part of FrankyFire repeating “METAL HEAD CLUB” and this is a damn good part for gang shouts. At first i asked the band to give me something to make that part a litle thicker. And then it klicked … “guys, we have a whole server! Let them do this!”

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    It started slowly but in the end and with some help of Thomas spreading the word we got a good bunch of performances from the crowd.

    can we get it better?

    Slowly the song came together. But we had trouble to get the intro right. We had a decent verse, a good chorus, all the parts were there. But the beginning of the song didn’t kick as we felt needed. Again arrangement discussion started. I tried to do a mix for every possible idea to give the band something to hear to check if it works. That again did cost a good amount of time. It’s maybe still a bit long until the vocals start but with the given chord progression we found a nice way to get attention and variety.

    “i got an idea guys … you CAN say no!!!”

    Naturally, mixing the thing i was the one spending the most time with all the details of the song. I could play with the different parts and as mentioned i was still messing around and adding the synth parts. So i had a bunch of stuff that i thought was cool but didn’t fit in the structure we had … so in a very narcistic move i changed the structure. I wanted to repeat Caeri’s “No Nazis no Bullshit” and i wanted to have more gang shouts AAND there was an idea for a nice build up AAAND i’m a sucker for a “big pathos wall of sound everything in” ending.
    To have even more epicness i took the chord progression and transposed that in the “four chord” structure.

    While i was “destroying” the song anyways i added a cheesy solo just for kicks on top of everything. And yes, i really sent that to the band preparing myself to get roasted for it. Luckily the band thougt the part was cool (at least that’s what they were saying. Could be they’re afraid of me or just to polite. I still just half get that i got away with this.). So now i have guitar credits on top, phew.

    Finally

    From there it was “just” to get a good mix. Having the gear i reamped the guitars.

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    and then somehow we finally had a finished song.

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    looking back

    This took way too long. That has to be said. Nextcloud helped a lot coordinating everything and everyone but still there was a lot of waiting for each other (and again, i take a good amount of blame here). Also i ended up doing a lot more than i initially intended. As said at first i just wanted to focus on the mixing thing. Well that worked out great … doh! Switching back and forth between songwriting and handling the tech stuff and give the band mixes to check was a huge time sucker for an “yeah, i can throw in a little time for mixing here and there” in between.

    But more importantly … we really did it! A couple of people that never met (one dude even from Australia!) got their shit together and made a pretty neat song happen. So we’re better than many bands that rehearse endlessly but never release something. And we managed our limited setting not to limit the quality of the song.

    What was most impressing: We learned that we had some pretty varying opinions on several points. So of course there was discussion. But we never got angry at each other. Things were talked through, we got a result, lets move on and work with it. I wish the bands i work with had this professional attitude!

    Cheers

    eighty

  • a “here i am” post … again

    It’s 2025 and i finally managed to spend some time on the website. I skipped the “german” version and threw out some really old posts. So there is nothing really to read here atm besides some “timeless” topics that may still be of some value.

    Let’s see if i can break my hapits and write more often but don’t expect anything.

  • Amp Comparison Part 1 – JCM 800 Styles

    Over the time i established a guitar amp and cabinet collection that covers a wide variety of sounds. So to explore these options i am in the process of creating several comparison videos of amps and styles. The first bunch of videos covered my flavours of a kind of JCM800 rock sound.

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